In this episode of Plot Twist Radio, Erin sits down with journalist and Stuck in the ’80s podcast co-creator Steve Spears to explore the music, memories, and cultural moments that made the 1980s unforgettable.
With over 800 episodes and two decades of storytelling, Steve shares how a short-term podcast experiment turned into a global community built on nostalgia and connection. From interviewing legendary artists to hosting fan-favorite events on the iconic 80s Cruise, he’s seen firsthand how deeply this decade still resonates.
We talk about the emotional power of music, why the 80s created a sense of shared identity, and the stories behind some of his most memorable interviews—including a surreal, deeply personal conversation with Steve Perry.
Steve also discusses his new book, a reflection on time, memory, and what happens when we revisit the moments that shaped us.
If you love 80s music, pop culture, storytelling, or conversations that go deeper than nostalgia—this episode is for you.
Where to find Steve:
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Welcome to Plot Twist Radio, the show where creativity,
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storytelling, and the unpredictable path of the
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creative life all collide. I'm your host, Aaron Egnatz.
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Before we jump into today's episode, I have a question for
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you. What decade lived inside you?
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For a lot of us, it's the 1980's.
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The music, the movies, the feeling that somehow through
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mixtapes, MTV and late night radio we were all connected.
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Today I'm sitting down with someone who didn't just live it.
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He spent the last two decades preserving it.
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Steve Spears is a long time journalist and the Co creator of
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the iconic Stuck in the 80s podcast, a show that started as
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a short term experiment and turned into an 800 episode
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legacy with listeners around the world.
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From interviewing legendary artist to hosting trivia on the
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wildly popular 80s cruise, Steve has built a community rooted in
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nostalgia, music and shared memory.
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In this episode we talk about what made the 80s so special,
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the artist who shared a generation and the surprising
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ways those connections still impact people today.
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We also dive into his new book, which captures decades of
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conversations, reflections and the emotional power of looking
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back. And yes, there's a story
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involving Steve Berry that you do not want to miss.
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So whether you're a full on 80s Die Hard or just someone who
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believes every error leaves its mark, this one's for you, Steve.
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Welcome to the show. Glad to be here, Aaron.
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Thank you for joining me. How how have you been doing
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today? You just got off of a.
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Fun little cruise. Yeah, there's an annual 80s
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cruise that goes out every year for a week, and they have about
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17 bands from the 80s every year.
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And the one I was just on had, Oh my gosh.
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Who did it have? Bret Michaels OMD, it just it
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was just when Taylor Dane was on there.
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Berlin just goes on and on and on, and every night is a
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different theme night and everyone dresses up for
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everything and it's just 24 hours, 1980s for seven straight
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days. Wow, that is my kind of cruise.
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I love the 80s. Everyone that's been listening
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to me for a while, they know that I love the 80s.
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I'm a Durani, so you know, 80s are my thing.
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Yeah, Duran Duran's got to be one of those bands that I think
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everyone sort of agrees is an institution.
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There's very few bands that I think have appealed across every
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genre and Duran Duran's one of them.
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Sure, for sure. So before we get going, can you
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tell the audience a little bit about yourself?
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Sure. I'm a journalist by trade.
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I've spent the last 30 years of my career mostly as an editor, a
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lot of it on the digital side. But along the way, I got a
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chance to start writing entertainment stories and they
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started taking a 80s flavor to them because that was the era
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that I grew up in and and that was my expertise.
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So we started a podcast 20 years ago at my newspaper called Stuck
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in the 80s. It was, it started at the Tampa
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Bay Times and it was supposed to be just a work project.
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It was supposed to be something I did for a month just so that
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we would learn how to do a podcast because at that time,
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nobody knew anything about podcasting.
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And after about 5 or 10 episodes, we realized people
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were listening and emailing us from around the world and we
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just couldn't stop. And So what was supposed to last
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for 5 or 10 episodes is now lasted for a.
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That's incredible. You're one of the Ogs.
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That's how our podcasts go. So like you said, you started
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your career in journalism and storytelling.
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What? Originally drew you to that as a
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career. You know, I had a teacher in
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high school who I had an AP European history class with, and
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I wasn't doing very well. I was never any good at math,
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but he really encouraged me. He liked the way I could write.
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And he said, I don't know that you always know what you're
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talking about, but you write it so well.
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And that sort of stuck with me. When I went to college, I was
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studying to be an accountant. And then I realized I had no
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passion for it and no skill for it.
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But the one thing I could do was write.
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And so I naturally sort of found my way into journalism, and
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that's what I've been doing ever since.
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That's, that's kind of how I felt too when I was in high
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school, you know, I was horrible at math.
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I, I was a terrible student. And it took years to realize
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that writing was my thing. But when I when it finally
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clicked I was like oh I should have been doing this the whole
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time. It's, it's a gift when you, when
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you find out what you're supposed to be doing with your
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life. And I I wish I had had
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discovered it earlier and not really happening in college, but
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but you know, it all worked out in the end.
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Sounds like it. So let's switch over to the 80s.
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What do you think it is about the 1980s that continues to
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resonate with people decades later?
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You know it. To me, the 80s are about
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community. When I was talking to, I was
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talking to Martha Quinn the other day and I'm not trying to
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name drop, she was a guest on the podcast and she was telling
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me her philosophy on it was that it felt like we all, everyone
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who lived in the 80s, everyone who went to high school in the
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80s or college and 80s, it felt like we all were related in some
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way. It's all like we went to the
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same school, but he may not have always been best friends, but we
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knew who each other were. There's a family aspect to the
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80s and one of the things I've learned over the last 20 years,
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I mean, most of my friends today are people from the podcast or
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from the 80s cruise. It is about, we like to say it's
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about the family you choose and the 80s, you know it.
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We share a same, similar soundtrack.
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You know, we all watched MTV. We all connected to each other
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through music. I don't know what people today
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in high school and college connect with each other through.
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I don't think it's music. But I hope they find, I hope
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they find their school. You know that.
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But the 80s, for us, it was, it was the music.
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So is there a particular kind of music from the 80s that you
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like? Like I said, I'm a Dirani, but
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you know, I love. I'm going to have the guy from
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Poison, Ricky Rocket on here soon.
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I love their music too. Is there?
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Anything. In particular for you.
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You know, it, my taste evolved a lot in in the 80s when I, when
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it started, I was into the ACDC and rush and journey and it
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evolved into new wave and I think that's kind of where I've
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I've stayed. So, so my, my loves are are the
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Duran Duran's, the R.E.M., they might be giants, stuff like
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that. The, the, the post punk sound of
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the late 80s is, is appealing to me.
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But it, but also, you know, if you even go back, you find it
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the roots of it all in the 70s too, with talking heads, police
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and Ultravox. So those are the bands that when
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I get to talk to people from those, I always have stories to
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share with them about, you know, how I connected with them 40
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years ago. And that's, that's always a
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treat. I can imagine.
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So over the years on the podcast, as you've said, you've
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interviewed some incredible artist.
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Is there a conversation that really surprised you?
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Or stayed with you. Yeah, Steve Perry of Journey.
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Back in the 2009, Thousand 10 Journey had released its
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Greatest Hits Volume 2 and Steve Perry actually did the
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remastering of it. And at that time he hadn't
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talked to anybody in the press in probably about 10 years.
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He was, he was kind of, you know, off doing his own thing.
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He wasn't public facing, but I really wanted to talk to him.
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And so I found out his contact information.
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He had a fan club called, can't remember what it was called now,
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but he had a fan club that was online.
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I found the e-mail address of everyone who worked there and
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just batch emailed them, like trying to reach Steve Perry.
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I'd like to interview him for the podcast about Greatest Hits.
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Finally, someone wrote back and said, yeah, I'd, I'm the person
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and Steve would like to talk to you.
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And I mean, Journey was the first concert I ever saw.
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So I mean, you could sort of say that my infatuation begins with
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Journey and begins, you know, at seeing them live on the escape
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tour. And he and I talked for close to
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an hour on the phone one day. And I think I had maybe 10
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questions written down. And it evolved from, it evolved
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quickly from an interview into a conversation.
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And we talked about our own humble beginnings with each
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other, where we grew up, what was important to us.
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And we talked eventually about him trying to create new music
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and his frustration over it. And he was his doubts that he he
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could do it again. And it became this.
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I almost, I don't want to overstate my role in it, but I
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started to feel like I was a therapist.
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And Steve Perry was on the couch and we were kind of walking him
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through this. And it just became this magical
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thing where here I am reassuring Steve Perry that that the
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pressure is not there. You know, just you do this on
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your own time. You know, you, you, there's no
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rush. Your fans love you and they
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respect the process. And he's like, you know, I gosh,
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Steve, I hope that's true sort of thing.
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And I still get chills going back and listening to that
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interview. It's easily the apex of those 20
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years. I can imagine that's got to be a
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dream come true. Are there any artists from the
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80s that you still? Dream of interviewing.
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You know, I, one of the things that we haven't been able to do
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quite so much is interview the actors from the 80s on the
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podcast. It's, it's easier to get a
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musician because musicians still tour, they still record.
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And most of the bands that we love from the 80s not recording
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anything new that's going to top the charts.
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So when they go out and do a show, no matter where it is or
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if it's at a local club or if it's at Madison Square Garden,
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they're still playing their hits.
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So when Kevin Cronin, you know, is on the podcast, I'm going to
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ask him about keep on loving you.
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I'm going to ask him about time for me to fly.
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The the actors, once they do a role, they move on and they
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don't really usually like to go back and talk about some an old
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role they did 40 years ago. And plus they're not usually
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promoting, you know, they're not promoting concert seats.
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So it's hard to get them on. It's hard to get them to talk
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about the 80s I've had. I've had a handful of them.
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So really everybody that's on my really big wish list is an actor
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right now. I would love to get John Cusack,
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you know, on the show. I had Molly Ringwald, but I'd
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like to get her again and do a better job.
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I feel like I really, I really whiffed, you know, when I had
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her on the show. I mean, I just, I would love to
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have anybody that worked with John Hughes, the whole, the
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whole 9 yards. But yeah, that's, that's I think
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where the, the main ones are. I, I know I'll probably never
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get a, a Bono or Madonna. And to be honest, I don't know
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what I would do with it if I did because they've been so over
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interviewed. I don't know where the
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conversation is. And if I don't know where the
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conversation is, I'm not sure that I'm, you know, really all
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that enthusiastic about it. Right, gotcha.
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That makes a lot of sense. And I know what you're talking
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about with the trying to get the actors.
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They are the hardest to get. I got I, I started the show with
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David Zucker, who did, you know, Airplane and Naked Gun.
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And I was like, you know what, I'm going to try and branch.
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Out here and get. Some of the actors that are on
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there, but it's impossible to track some.
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Dallas. The only way, the only way I
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think you could do it these days is, is wait for them to, because
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they always pop up at film festivals like they're always
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doing, like they'll always be a screening of airplanes somewhere
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or a screening of say anything. And, and that's usually your
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best bet, I think to get them or, or if they're going to do a
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con, then to, to try to get in touch with the con promoters at.
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I'm really going to focus on that more the next couple of
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years and see if I can't. I hate some of these people to
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to open up and really share some stories.
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That's a good idea that those are becoming so popular right
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now. So let's shift over to this 80s
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cruise. You hosted trivia, correct?
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On the, on the. Ship yeah.
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So they came to me 10 or 11 years ago when it when it first
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started and they wanted to have our podcast as a marketing
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partner. So primarily what we work with
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them as is is a promotion agent. So we I interview a lot of the
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artists who will be on the cruise each year and we
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obviously promote the the cruise a lot on every episode.
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But when we're actually on the ship sort of serve, we service
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the trivia MCS and we usually have a guest who's a, you know,
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like a Taylor Dayne or a Terry Nunn or we've had Howard Jones
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and Paul Young and mid year just about everybody out of the
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motels or I could go on and on. And it's so these, we end up
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doing trivia in a room of about 700 people trying to do this
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trivia and and Q&A. And so those have really big to
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have taken off in recent years. And that's one of our favorite
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things to do. The other thing that we usually
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get volunteered for is to become the judges for a costume
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contest. Every year there's a pop icon
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night where everybody, everybody dresses up as their favorite pop
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top icon. So it could be anything from
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looking like adamant to maybe recreating the, the dinner scene
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from Beetlejuice, which somebody did this year and they they won,
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of course, And so we get to judge that.
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So that that's always a thrill. And I've, I was just sharing
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photos of that on social. Some of the more amazing
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costumes that we saw one, one year someone came in the
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bathtub. It was a they're recreating the
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commercial for Calgon, you know, the bubble bath.
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It was just the the people come on these cruises work with 10 or
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12 suitcases full of props for these theme nights.
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It's just insane the level of fandom and the love that you see
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for the 80s. I mean it pulls I mean 3000
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strangers just all together for the same thing for a week.
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It's it's the best kind of insanity there ever will be.
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Oh, I can imagine. So I asked you what your
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favorite moment was as far as interviewing goes.
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But what is your favorite moment as far as?
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Interacting with. Fans of the 80s.
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Well, I mean a lot of interesting things have happened
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over the years. I mean, I met my wife on the 80s
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cruise. She came to Triv.
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She came to trivia the first year and left after 5 minutes
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because the questions were too hard and, and so I wouldn't meet
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her for another four years until she gave trivia another chance.
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So I mean, certainly that's the most significant meeting.
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The podcast has given me some some incredible moments.
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We get these letters from people who have listened in and from
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the beginning and they tell me what role the show has played in
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their life. I mean, one listener, his wife
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and he used to listen to the show when she was going through
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chemotherapy at a hospital. And so they would be there for
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hours and they would just listen to the podcast together.
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And when he wrote me to tell me that she had passed, I just, I
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was, I was devastated. And just we shared, he wanted us
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to share the letter with our listeners, what we did.
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And I, it was a tough read for me.
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It's, it's tough for me to think about it now, even without, you
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know, getting a little for Klimt.
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But but that's, that's what always amazes me is, is someone
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will share a story about how the podcast got them through some
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tough part of their life, like they were unemployed and they
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needed something to distract themselves, why they looked for
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a new job or health challenges or the loss of the family.
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That and whenever I get a story like that or an e-mail like
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that, I just, I really, I feel grateful that I've had the
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opportunity to, to, to play some small role.
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Absolutely I can. I can imagine how difficult but
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yet rewarding in a way that could be.
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We will switch over a little bit, shift gears to your book
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now. What inspired you to turn from
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podcast to book? You know, 20 years just seem
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like a good time to stop these conversations that we've had
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over the since 2005. They all disappear into a feed
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eventually. And I wanted more of a lasting
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record. I wanted these stories to have a
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permanent home. And so a book made sense.
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I, I say in the podcast all the time that each episode is like
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downloading these memories from my brain into podcast form.
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And then sometimes when I do that, I feel like I can let go
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of them to some degree. That the podcast serves as a, as
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my own sort of personal therapy or self help as I try to reckon
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with memories from 40 years ago. The book served that same
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purpose. As I went back and I started
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rereading these interviews that I'd done, some of which I hadn't
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even thought about in, in 15 or 20 years, I started seeing new
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truth in them. I started seeing them
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differently than I did one once when they began, I, I was never
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much of an interviewer, you know, in the early days, like I
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said, my, my experience was born as an editor.
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So my process as an interviewer has has evolved over 20 years.
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And so it was, it was a very therapeutic project for me.
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I, when I finally finished it, which was only about a month ago
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that I finished it really, I, I just, I had this combination of
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emptiness and, but self satisfaction and I just a lot of
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mixed feelings about, you know, finally accomplishing this goal.
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It was easily the, the hardest thing I've ever done
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professionally, probably the hardest thing I've ever done in
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my life to, to, to write that book.
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And so I feel, I feel great about it being finished, but I
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also have that feeling like, you know, when you've when you've
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accomplished some monumental goal and then you suddenly
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think, well, what's next? So.
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I can imagine I've been there. It it's a weird feeling, But
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once it's finally out there, you're like, OK, I can breathe.
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And then I always find a new project.
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Yeah, someone always goes. So for someone who loves 80s
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music but maybe wasn't alive during the decade or for me, I
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was born in 1986 so I don't really remember it.
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What would you tell them about the 80s?
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You're you're always going to feel a connection, and I'm sure
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you do too, to the the music and the pop culture from your
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formative years. With most by with my parents, it
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was more in the 50s and 60s. With me, it was it was all in
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the 80s. I went to high school and
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College in the 80s. You those years become a shared
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language that you have with other people.
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The what I found from what I was telling non 80s fans about the
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book is it's really a book about time and memory.
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Everybody has a decade that lives inside them.
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This book is kind of what happens when you go back to that
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those times and what you learn from them.
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I it, it took, it took a fair amount of distance for me to
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write it. I don't think I could have
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written this 20 years ago when the podcast started.
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I, I would not have had the clarity that I, that I feel
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about that time. Now it's, I feel, I feel sad to
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some degree for people who didn't get to experience the 80s
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because there was some unifying qualities to it that you just
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that will never reappear again. One is there wasn't really a 24
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hour news culture that we have today and newspapers were still
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and magazines were still very important.
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That's how you got your news. We were all unified by the idea
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of a Cold War and that someone could press a button and
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vaporize a country any day. And then we were all captivated
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and just enthralled by MTV. It became like the universal
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translator for us because it it encapsulated movie and pop
00:19:34
culture and fashion and art, everything that the 80s became.
00:19:39
MTV was a small part of it. And it's it's sad that it
00:19:43
doesn't serve that role anymore. It's there.
00:19:45
We didn't have social media. If you wanted to send your note,
00:19:49
a friend a note, you had to do it on paper and hope that you
00:19:52
didn't get, you know, intercepted by your teacher.
00:19:55
It was, it was, it was maybe the last innocent decade of where,
00:20:00
you know, you could play outside until the street lights came on
00:20:02
and you didn't have to worry all that much about terrorism.
00:20:06
I think that was a word that we only starting to learn about.
00:20:10
You didn't have the division that you have today in our
00:20:14
country and other countries. It was a it was a great time.
00:20:18
It's it's hard to describe to people who didn't go through it
00:20:21
just how nurturing it was. Yeah, Well said, Very well said.
00:20:27
So I'm going to switch to a little bit of a lighter
00:20:29
Lightning round here before we close out some just quick
00:20:33
questions. One is do.
00:20:34
You have a favorite 80s? Song.
00:20:36
A Together in electric dreams by The Human League Very.
00:20:39
Nice, very nice. How about movie?
00:20:44
It's always partial to Valley Girl with Nicolas Cage and
00:20:47
Deborah Foreman very. Nice.
00:20:49
I don't don't know if I've seen that one.
00:20:50
I'm going to check that one out. How about band?
00:20:53
Is there a band you wish you could go back in time and see
00:20:56
again or for the first time? What kills me is that I had
00:21:01
tickets to see Duran Duran on their Seven in the Ragged Tiger
00:21:04
tour. My girlfriend got tickets and we
00:21:06
were supposed to go. My parents disapproved of my
00:21:09
girlfriend so much that they would not let me go to the
00:21:12
concert. So even though I've seen Duran
00:21:14
Duran twice since then, what I really want to do is go back to
00:21:17
1984 and see Duran Duran on the Seven in the Ragged Tiger Tour.
00:21:21
I will take that grudge with me to my deathbed.
00:21:25
I would do as I mentioned, I love.
00:21:26
I saw them twice last year and they're still amazing.
00:21:29
But yes, to see them in their heyday, that would have been
00:21:32
amazing. So where?
00:21:33
Can the audience find you? You can go to find our podcast
00:21:38
is on pretty much every feed Spotify, iHeartRadio, Apple
00:21:42
Podcast. We have a website,
00:21:44
siteighties.com and the book is available on Amazon beginning
00:21:51
March 11th and then on other retailers the same time, Barnes
00:21:55
and Noble, Target, Walmart, stuff like that.
00:21:57
So definitely check it out and you know, let me know what you
00:22:01
think. I'm I I love to get emails and
00:22:03
and and feedback. Right.
00:22:05
And I will make sure those links are in the show notes.
00:22:07
Steve, thank you. So much for.
00:22:09
Joining me. It's been great, Aaron.
00:22:13
There's one thing this conversation proves.
00:22:15
It's that the 1980s weren't just a decade.
00:22:18
They were a shared experience, a soundtrack, a feeling, and for
00:22:21
so many people, a sense of belonging that still resonates
00:22:25
today. Steve's journey from journalist
00:22:27
to podcaster to author really highlights the power of
00:22:30
storytelling not just to preserve memories, but to help
00:22:33
us understand them in new ways. And I love what he said about
00:22:36
how every generation has a decade that lives inside them.
00:22:40
That one really stuck with me. If you want to dive deeper into
00:22:42
Steve's work, be sure to check out Stuck in the 80s wherever
00:22:45
you listen to podcasts and grab his new book.
00:22:47
The links are in the show notes. And as always, if you enjoyed
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keeps the conversations going. Until next time, keep chasing
00:22:57
the stories and maybe revisit the decade that made you you.