In this episode of Plot Twist Radio, host Erin Egnatz sits down with author Stuart Jaffe, the creative mind behind the Max Porter Paranormal Mysteries and Pathway Ring series.
With over 70 books spanning paranormal mystery, science fiction, fantasy, and thriller genres, Stuart shares how he blends real historical events with supernatural elements like ghosts, magic, and hidden worlds. From discovering little-known World War II history in North Carolina to building long-running book series, this conversation dives deep into the craft of storytelling.
Stuart also opens up about:
- Writing across multiple genres without burning out
- The balance between mystery and the supernatural
- Creating grounded paranormal worlds that feel real
- The differences between writing plays and novels
- Building long-running series and keeping characters consistent
- His upcoming projects, including a new dragon horror novel
If you’re a fan of ghost stories, paranormal investigations, historical mysteries, or sci-fi storytelling, this episode is for you.
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Welcome to Plot Twist Radio, the show where creativity,
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storytelling, and the unpredictable path of the
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creative life all collide. I'm your host, Aaron Egnatz.
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Welcome back to Plot Twist Radio, the podcast where
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storytellers share their twists behind their stories and
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sometimes the twists behind their lives.
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Today's guest is, well, let's just say he doesn't do just one
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thing. Stewart is the creative force
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behind multiple fan favorite series including the Max Porter
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Paranormal Mysteries and the Pathway Ring series.
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His work spans paranormal, suspense, thrillers, and
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imaginative worlds that blur the lines between reality and the
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unknown. Before becoming a full time
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storyteller, Stewart spent over a decade training in martial
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arts until a knee injury changed his path.
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These days, when he's not crafting intricate mysteries,
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he's playing lead guitar in a Blues band called The
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Bootleggers and enjoying life on a small farm in North Carolina.
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So today we're diving into the mind of a writer who seems to
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live at the intersection of discipline, creativity, and just
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a little bit of chaos. Hi, Stuart, How are you?
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I'm doing fine, Aaron. Thanks for having me here.
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Great to have you. Before we get going, can you
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tell the audience a little bit about yourself?
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Sure. I'm Stuart Jaffe.
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I'm that's known as the author of this the Max Porter
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Paranormal mysteries. But I've been writing for almost
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30 years, so I have something like over 70, some titles in all
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different kinds of science fiction, fantasy, everything
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from time travel fantasy to contemporary fantasy epic.
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I'm my newest thing that'll be coming out in June.
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Hopefully Cross my fingers will be a dragon horror.
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So yeah, a little bit of everything, plus science
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fiction. Yeah, a little bit of
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everything. I like that.
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So as you said, you've written across many genres.
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I like to write over different genres too.
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I get bored with one, like to switch around.
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I don't know why. I just kind of how I am.
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Yeah, that's how I feel. And I find that, you know, if
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I'm bored, I can't expect you to be the reader to be interested.
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So as long as I keep I, I do it to keep myself excited.
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If if all 70 books were the Max Porter paranormal mysteries, I'd
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be financially doing a lot better.
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But I would have, I don't know, I would have burned out a long
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time ago. So.
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Oh yeah. So for you, did storytelling
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come first or did life come first and then storytelling came
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later on? Well.
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Storytelling, in some ways, it was always there.
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I mean, I have memories of I remember being a little kid.
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I probably was like 8 or 9 and I'm old.
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So this is back before, like before computers really, you
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know, home computers. I had a typewriter and I can
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remember putting a piece of paper and they're going, I'm
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going to write the Great American novel.
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And I spent, it felt like hours and I got one page done, but it
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was a whole story in one page, you know, because it was all
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because I know what I was doing. And I again, I don't know, my
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mom was out because I, they had a babysitter in the house and
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she read it and it was a science fiction story.
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It had to do with clones and things.
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And, and she, she was a sweetheart because she actually
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took it seriously, like read it and then actually critiqued me
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and made me think about the logic of, of what I'd done.
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So I mean, in some ways I've always been, that's always been
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there. I went to college and studied
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theater, directing theater and very quickly started writing my
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own plays to direct. So it's always been there, but I
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didn't really recognize it until later till till till I start
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writing plays. And then that led to writing
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short stories, and that led to writing longer stories and
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snowballed from there. Awesome.
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So how different is it writing a play versus writing a novel?
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Oh, tremendously. I mean, writing a play is it's,
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you're pretty much just writing dialogue.
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You can put in some stage directions, but you don't want
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to put in too much. You're you're basically the, the
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dialogue should tell the whole story as much as possible, which
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was great, which was a in some ways a great thing.
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Like dialogue has never been an issue for me as a prose writer
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because I have that, that background.
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I had to learn how to, to, to back off of that because I would
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have just pages that were just quote, quote, quote, quote,
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quote, quote, quote, quote. I'm like, oh, no, you need to
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break that up in different ways and, and guide the reader a
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little bit more because an actor, their whole job is to
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spend, especially in, in theatre, they're going to spend
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weeks and weeks, it's about months looking at those lines
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and trying to figure out what, what, what's that writer trying
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to say? And how do I say this?
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The reader, reader is just going to read it and keep going.
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So it's got to be clear, they're mad, they're sad, they're, you
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know, emphatic. They're, they're not, they're
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saying the opposite of what they're feeling or whatever the
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situation is. Oh yeah, That's something I have
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a hard time with. I remember when I first got my
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first manuscript backed, it was from, I think she was a
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developmental editor. I can't remember now, but she's
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like, show, not tell, stop telling everything.
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And it was just so hard for me. I don't know why.
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Well, yeah, it's funny. I'm going to be doing a
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convention in a few months and we just got the panelists to
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choose what we wanted to be on. And one of them was about
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terrible writing advice. And I was like, OK, I'll do
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that. And one of them my, my one bit
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is that is show, don't tell because I understand why we, we
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teach that at for beginning writers because most beginning
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writers want to tell everything. But it's gotten to the point
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where people don't, are not willing to tell.
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They just want to show everything.
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And I'm like, no, no, no telling is good.
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It's just learning when to tell and when to show.
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Right, exactly. They got to find that balance.
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So let's talk about the Max Porter Paranormal mysteries,
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because they're very interesting, especially to me as
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a ghost hunter. That's my kind of thing.
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So what inspired that series? So the series began.
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I live in North Carolina where the whole series takes place.
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And at the time my wife was working on her masters at Wake
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Forest University. So I spending a lot of time at
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the university, you know, waiting for her to go have lunch
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or dinner, pick her up or whatever.
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And so I would be spend that time at the university library.
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And one time I, for whatever reason, I don't know why I was
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just, I realized I'd been living in Winston Salem, NC for a
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couple of years and really didn't know much about the
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place. So I went down to the local
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history section of the library and found a book that while I
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was looking through it, I stumbled upon this, this aspect
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about the city, which was that during World War 2, the soldiers
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were smoking cigarettes like they were going out of style
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because they, you know, obviously we're a little
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nervous. And, and, and so the President
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United States went to RJ Reynolds for our Jay Reynolds
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tobacco and they, he said, you know, we need more cigarettes.
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And RJ Reynolds said, well, I could run my factories 24/7.
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I just don't have manpower. So we took, we, we brought
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German PO WS over the Atlantic and set up little camps all
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throughout North Carolina. Each one I'd like 18 or so
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soldiers in it. And they bust them in in the
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night, have them work all night long and bust them out before
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anybody woke up. And, and, you know, I, I, I
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never heard about this my whole life.
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I mean, I've heard all different things about, you know, there's
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plenty of stories about World War 2, every possible story you
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could think of. And I never heard this And I
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didn't looked into it more. It turned out was true.
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And that was the beginning. And I was like, I've got to use
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this for a story. And at the time I was trying I
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had the this again is we're going back to before in the
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publishing was a viable thing. So I was still have an agent.
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I was still on this merry go round of sending stuff to my
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agent. And she would send it to Tor and
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to Bane and to Spectra and all the different publishers and the
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editors would come back and say, oh man, we love Stewart.
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We love his writing. We love his characters, his
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stories. We love it all.
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We're not going to buy it or on merry go round keeps going.
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And so I, so my wife had suggestible, you know, you love
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reading mysteries and other types of things, why don't you
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try something else? So I thought, OK, I will write a
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mystery based on this historical thing.
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And I started writing it and then a ghost popped into the
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store because I discovered then I can't write anything.
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I write will always involve some kind of science fiction fantasy
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element and I just went with it. And once Marshall Drummond,
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who's the ghost, he's the ghost who died in the 1940s and is
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involved with this his his the case that killed him is the case
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that that involves this POW situation.
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And and that's kind of how it all started.
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And then I just I went with it from there.
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And so the all the whole series, it takes real history.
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Every book I find different pieces of history about that the
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area originally just once in Salem and then it's got, you
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know, as it's expanded, but it's always North Carolina and, and I
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mix it with witches and ghosts and magic and all that kind of
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stuff. It's a lot of fun.
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I love that I, the historian in me is peaked.
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Of course the ghost hunter in me is peaked.
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I have to say, I have so many people that have begged me to go
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to North Carolina and I finally did a couple years ago and I did
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the battleship North Carolina for a ghost hunt.
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And I was just amazed by all of the World War 2 history because
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I, I'm a Civil War historian. So, you know, I know more of
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that stuff than the World War 2 stuff.
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We. Got plenty of that here too.
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You guys have all the history. I'm up in Northwest Indiana.
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We have nothing. I I was just fascinated by all
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of the World War 2 history, especially with North Carolina.
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And that is when I actually heard what you were talking
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about, because I didn't know that either about the PLWS, but
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the guy that was running the battleship was telling us all
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about it. He was like a historian.
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So that's very fascinating. Yeah, and, and actually the
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battleship is. I keep wanting to use the
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battleship because it is notoriously haunted, but I I
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just haven't gotten the story yet for it.
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Someday maybe. I just released the 20th book in
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the series and it's still going strong, so there's no shortage
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of of things to talk about. No.
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And that's a good thing. That's a good thing.
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So what makes Max different from your typical paranormal
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investigator? A couple things is that Max
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himself has no skills like his main skill.
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The reason the in the in the first book, he got a job that
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brought him down to North Carolina, him and his wife, and
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his job was as a researcher. And that's what he does.
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What his contribution to the team is that he's the one who
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researches all the history and can learn the stuff through an
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event that happens in the first book.
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He has ends up with the ability to see one ghost Marshall
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Drummond, who's the the detective that they that they
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have this detective agency with and his wife.
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She has always had the The Sixth Sense to be able to see dead
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people, right? She sees ghosts all the time.
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And so that's one of the unique things is, is because it's all
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told through. It's told the third person, but
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it's specific to Max. So we only can see the ghost
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that he can see. We can see the we know there's
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other things going on. We're told by the characters and
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there are a couple spells and instances where Max is Privy to
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some of the other ghosts, but only for a short moment.
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So that's one thing. The other thing is Max is
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married. He and his wife Sandra have had
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a long relationship. They love each other.
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This is not a character who's got a New Girl every episode,
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you know, every book and, and they'll always be married.
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You know, I've, I've had people, I've had fans who were a little
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worried and I like they're never going to cheat on each other.
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They're never going to get divorced.
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They love each other. That's one of the unique things
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about the book because most, a lot, I shouldn't say most, but a
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lot of urban fantasy, whether it's a female or a male
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protagonist, they are just hopping in bed with everybody or
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they're in some love triangle. And there is romance in some of
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these books, but it's the romance of a of a healthful,
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healthy married couple who've been together for a long time.
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And it's the romance that they have as opposed to the initial
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will they won't they kind of romance.
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Right, and that's a good thing. I think so.
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Yeah, because as you said, it is over saturated with the love
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triangles and the, you know, who are they going to end up with
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that thing. But yeah, so you don't really
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see the marriages, especially before it even starts.
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So that's good. I like that.
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So, yeah, so those are a couple of the big things that really
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make the make it feel different. And then the the the world of
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magic is not like some crazy out there world.
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It's yet there are ghosts and there are witches and the
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witches had it's it's kind of an underground society kind of a
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thing, you know, but in the sense same senses, like the
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mafia is an underground society. We all know they exist.
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You know, we we know they're there or we think they're there,
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right. In terms of witches, we all know
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which is exist. People call themselves witches.
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It's just that we don't in the world of Max Porter, the average
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person doesn't know that the magic part is real.
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And so that's the, you know, the magic part, the ghost part, that
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part is real. But otherwise it's the real
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world. And, and it's so as opposed to
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like the the Dresden Files, which is wonderful series, but
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especially if it started somewhat grounded in Chicago
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with wizard and magic and by, you know, by, I don't know what
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book he's on now, but it's like there's the fae world in this
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world and there's the the the tribunals and that, you know,
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and that's all I I don't see that as a criticism.
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It's fun, but it's it's just gotten, it's expanded into such
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a more fantasy thing and it no longer is grounded in reality in
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the same sense. And I'm trying, I'm trying very
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hard and it's the longer the series goes, it's like, how do I
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keep, keep it constricted so it doesn't balloon into going into
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these other planes and worlds and yet still not be treading
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the same ground over and over and over and over because that
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would get boring as well. That's the trick.
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The trick I have to deal with. I can imagine, yeah.
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After 20, I can imagine. So when you're writing
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paranormal, how do you balance the mystery with the
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supernatural without like, losing tension, I guess?
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Well, so a big part of it is to is to not have them be separate
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things ideally, ideally whatever.
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I usually I have to spend a lot of time in the beginning just
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researching history. But an ideal piece of history
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for me is something that's unique and interesting, of
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course, something that excites me, but also has holds things
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where we're just like, why do we don't know what happened in
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this? So I had a good example would
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be, and you'll love this one in this at the end of the Civil
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War, things were rather chaotic in the South.
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And there was there was a lot of money being pilfered and taken
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places. And there it, there was a a
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boxcar full of gold that was being taken on train and from
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South to north kind of across the state as well.
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And at one point there was a stop it stopped and then and
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then all the gold disappeared like the train arrived later and
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there was no gold and and nobody has ever to this day found the
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gold. There are people who will go
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where this this was located with metal detectors.
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You know, I think gold occasionally a coin is found,
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but no, but you know, so there's there's a a weird little that's
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a little mini story, but that's the kind of thing where I can
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now insert witchcraft, magic, ghosts, whatever I want to throw
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in there and and weave that into the story.
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I love that. Yeah.
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And I know the story you're talking about.
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Yes. I I really want to know where
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the gold is. But yes, that is fascinating.
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You see an article every so often about these guys are out
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here, but the FBI is not letting us look at the gold.
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It's so funny. But I wonder where that gold
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ended up? Not with me.
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Now he was about to just say I don't have it, but.
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So you've built multiple series as you said.
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How do you keep all of those worlds and characters straight
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without losing your mind? Very poorly.
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I think if I could go back in time and, you know, tell my
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younger self, I'd be like, truly learn to do a series Bible,
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right? That's I, I, I know people who
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do that and it's a wonderful thing, but I never got in the
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habit of doing it, so I don't. And I, I, the way I managed to
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keep this stuff straight is that I, I write a lot.
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I mean, I put out three to four books a year, so I don't really
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give the stories that long. I'll write one in this series
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and keep moving it on. So like the latest Mac supporter
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book came out in what, February of this year?
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So I was writing it in like December and January and by the
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end of this year I will probably start writing another one.
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And so it hasn't been that long. It's not like I'm waiting two
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years, three years to revisit something.
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Occasionally I, I often have to go back to the last book and
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read the final chapter just to remember how I left things and
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and then things just never things happen.
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I, I've told this story before, but I back when my son was a
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teenager and, and living with us, one day we're sitting around
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chatting about Max Porter and he says, you know, are you ever
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going to deal with that one thing that happened in like I
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thought like book 4 or whatever. I'm like, what thing?
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He's like, you know, there was this scene and he described the
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scene goes and in it the one character just kind of I was a
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throwaway line said mention this and this.
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And I've been wondering about that for like the last five
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books, What's going to happen? And the truth is I completely
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forgot. I did put that line in there
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with the intention of like someday writing something about
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it, but I completely forgot about it.
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So I was like, well, that's what the next book is going to be
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about. So so you all have my son to
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thank for for there not being a gap there.
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I'm sure there are other gaps. I know there are other there are
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characters from early on that people are like, are we ever
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going to see that character again?
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I'm like, maybe it, I mean, I'd have to go back and reread that.
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And I don't want to reread my writing from decades ago because
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it's probably really bad as far as I'm concerned, you know, that
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kind of thing. So we'll see.
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Yeah, I can see where that would be difficult.
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I I know that I don't like to go back and read the stuff that I
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wrote a long time ago. I'm like, what was I thinking?
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What was I doing? Right.
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I mean, hopefully we continue to grow and become better at our
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our craft and the art of it. So there's nothing wrong.
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I mean, obviously the the first book in the series still does
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its job and gets people hooked and there's a lot of good,
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there's plenty good about it. It's but I can see, you know,
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there are things that I like. They're not even mistakes.
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They're just I would do it different or I could do it
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better now. Yeah.
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That kind of thing. And we're, we're our worst
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critics, usually. Usually.
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The very first book I self published was a science fiction
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book. That was a Provost book.
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There's a science fiction book? Actually I shouldn't.
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I don't know if it was the first one I self published, but it's
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called After the Crash. It was the first book I'd ever
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written that was publishable like back before
00:20:30
self-publishing. It was submitted to an agency
00:20:33
and they basically said we would love, we would have loved to
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publish it if we'd gotten it two weeks ago.
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But we have already signed somebody who fits that, that
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part of our science fiction thing.
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Please send more stuff. So there I knew that I had a
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book that was, you know, polishable.
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I would change it completely now based on how I write.
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And yet I've had people come and they love that book.
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So who am I to say? You know, I'm not going to chant
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touch it. If you all love it, great.
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Exactly, exactly. So what is up next for you?
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Well, I did mention that. So I have this dragon horror
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book. It's called Dragon Slain and
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that'll be coming out soon and it's stand.
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It's a stand alone book with series, the ability to have a
00:21:15
series. So it just depends on, you know,
00:21:17
I wrote it because the fans told me they wanted me to write a
00:21:20
dragon book. So I wrote one and I'm like, if
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you all actually buy it and it's, you know, sells well, I
00:21:27
will write more of them. You know, we'll see.
00:21:30
And so that's an added editing right now.
00:21:34
So I'm about to start gearing up for the third book in my science
00:21:39
fiction series, The Pathway Ring, which those take a while.
00:21:43
They're they're the biggest kind of I tend to write very concise
00:21:48
books, you know, not like like a Max Porter book is like 7080
00:21:52
thousand words and these books are like 100 and some, which is
00:21:56
just to me is mind blowing to write something that big.
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But these are are like a family's saga following one
00:22:06
family across multiple generation centuries.
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They're they're we follow them because their company is at the
00:22:13
heart of building the first ever Stargate in space.
00:22:17
And and we fought and then they go through and get spit out
00:22:21
somewhere. And if you ever want to get
00:22:22
back, you got to build the other end.
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So over all those centuries, we watch this family drama unwind
00:22:29
mixed with political upheavals, first contact with aliens.
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It's again. Now that I know you're into the
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civil war. You're probably familiar with
00:22:37
the Kent Family Chronicles, John Jake's Yes, yes.
00:22:41
So I was a big fan of that whole series.
00:22:44
So I basically wanted to do that, but in science fiction.
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And so I mixed that idea of following one family through
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just all these historical events and these big things.
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But of course, none of it's happened because it's in the
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future. So it's it's a future history.
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Interesting. That'll be good.
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So that's coming out. Is it the summer?
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We're not sure. Yet it's the third book I I have
00:23:09
to look at my schedule, which I think it will be out in.
00:23:13
Well, it'll be out in late later this year.
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Like August. No, no, not always like October,
00:23:20
if that's what I was trying to say.
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October or November somewhere in there, depending on how long it
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takes to write the the first to the second one surprised me with
00:23:28
how long it took. So I've I've given myself a much
00:23:31
longer frame to write it in. The first book is called
00:23:34
Pioneers of the Pathway. And yeah, you should check it
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out. You'll love it.
00:23:38
Absolutely. I look forward to that.
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So where can the audience find you?
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I'm not hard to find. stuartjaffe.com is my website
00:23:47
that'll link you everywhere. Or if you're if that's too much
00:23:50
trouble you can just put me in an Amazon or wherever you like
00:23:54
to buy books. I am everywhere. 5% of my stuff
00:23:58
is in audio at this point. So if you like that, go on an
00:24:02
Audible, Apple or Amazon and get the audio books there.
00:24:07
And yeah, I try to make it pretty easy.
00:24:10
Oh, I have to try. I got to remember that too.
00:24:12
Oh yeah, can't forget that one. Yeah.
00:24:16
Well, I will make sure that those are in the links along
00:24:19
with your release dates. And thank you so much for
00:24:22
joining me. Well, thank you very much for
00:24:24
having me. I appreciate it.
00:24:25
It's been great. And that was my conversation
00:24:27
with Stuart JV. He's an author who proves that
00:24:31
you don't have to stay in one lane to build an incredible
00:24:33
storytelling career. From paranormal mysteries rooted
00:24:37
in real history to sweeping science fiction sagas, Stewart's
00:24:40
work lives right at the intersection of imagination and
00:24:44
reality, which, let's be honest, it's exactly where the best
00:24:47
stories are born. If you're in a ghost, hidden
00:24:50
history, or just really well crafted worlds, you're going to
00:24:53
want to check out his Max Porter Paranormal Mysteries and keep an
00:24:57
eye out for his upcoming release.
00:24:58
As always, I'll have all of Stuart's links in the show notes
00:25:01
so you can dive into his work, follow along, and maybe even
00:25:04
uncover a few mysteries of your own.
00:25:07
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